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« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2009, 04:42:35 PM »

I'm not interested in netflix streaming since I don't have a subcription to that.  Honestly, the only thing I'd like is the scrapping ability. 
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« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2009, 03:32:01 PM »

 
I'm not interested in netflix streaming since I don't have a subcription to that.  Honestly, the only thing I'd like is the scrapping ability. 

I would suggest XBMC installed on a bare essentials version of unbutu linux nettop or something similar like what I got. A backend server or just and old desktop to hold the media, networked over ethernet.

I should also add the wife thought XBMC was easy to use and pretty much figured it out instantly. Boxee on the other hand, not so much.
I have links to some step by step guides if you are interested. It really is a beautiful way of navigating your media.
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« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2009, 05:10:27 PM »

Well, I got the Western Digital HD TV Live box for Christmas and have been toying with that for right now.  I have to figure that out first and see if I need to go to XBMX on the PC.
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« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2009, 04:48:07 PM »

So, I got the PC connected to our TV last night (except for network I need to run tonight), but didn't have time to futz with it much.  Did you get the Aeon skin ultimately from the MediaFire hosting (Aeon_091STARK_FULL.zip)?  Somehow I ended up with a couple different files for the Aeon skin which were different by a couple MBs.  The other one is named djh-aeon-363709f.zip, but I can't remember for the life of me where I downloaded it from.

Also, do you have any recommendations for plugins or new visualizations?  I found a script for enabling Hulu on XBMC I'll try out as soon as I get it networked.

I'm not entirely clear on what the SVN Repo Installer actually is.  Is this a check for updates to my plugins sort of script?
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« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2009, 06:32:49 PM »

Ok so I haven't been on the forums much but I can definitely weigh in on this subject.  A guy here at the office has used XBMC and BOXEE and I've looked into them as well.  We both came to the conclusion that using Windows Media Center is the easiest way to get everything up and running most simply.  I understand the nerdyness factor of using Linux and something like XBMC/BOXEE but if it's going to need tweaked every two seconds is it worth it?  Yes, it may be more satisfying...and if that's for you then great.  For those of you just interested in a HTPC I highly recommend it.  Cable is dead to me now (I've been without a paid video service since August and haven't missed it).  All you need is a decent connection to the interwebs and you're good to go.

So my question to all of the naysayers... why do you say nay?  Why is Windows Media Center the devil?

K thxbai.

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« Reply #50 on: December 29, 2009, 06:41:02 PM »

Oh BTW - I bought a Dell Studio Slim http://tinyurl.com/yl77kzo Core2 quad with 4GB RAM and 300GB disk and a hauppage dual HD tuner.  If I really get into storing large amounts of media/porn/whatever I'll look at setting something up in my basement to host it and pipe it over the network.

Right now I'm running the out-of-box OS (Vista Home Premium) but will be installing Windows 7 as soon as I stop being lazy.  The only problem I'm having is the sound sometimes dies after bring the PC out of sleep mode but other than that it's flawless and easy.  I'm hoping Windows 7 fixes the sound issue.

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« Reply #51 on: December 29, 2009, 07:12:37 PM »

gron I'm in agreement with you on this one so far.  I toyed with XBMC on my PC..... My Movie Collector as well..... all in all, aside form the fancy skins, the media Center on Windows 7 is pretty slick.  I added a plugin that grabs the movie artwork and so far it's pretty good.

Now, FWIW, I don't use my PC as an HTPC right now.  I may in the future, but for now the WD HD TV Live box grabs everything off my network share and plays just about any format you can think of.
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« Reply #52 on: December 30, 2009, 02:11:58 PM »

So, I got the PC connected to our TV last night (except for network I need to run tonight), but didn't have time to futz with it much.  Did you get the Aeon skin ultimately from the MediaFire hosting (Aeon_091STARK_FULL.zip)?  Somehow I ended up with a couple different files for the Aeon skin which were different by a couple MBs.  The other one is named djh-aeon-363709f.zip, but I can't remember for the life of me where I downloaded it from.

Also, do you have any recommendations for plugins or new visualizations?  I found a script for enabling Hulu on XBMC I'll try out as soon as I get it networked.

I'm not entirely clear on what the SVN Repo Installer actually is.  Is this a check for updates to my plugins sort of script?

SVN Repo installer is a script to install new plugins/skins but last time i checked AEON was not on it, BUT they are supposed to be moving to it soon. Might want to check and see if its listed there. This a linux or windows install?

Ok so I haven't been on the forums much but I can definitely weigh in on this subject.  A guy here at the office has used XBMC and BOXEE and I've looked into them as well.  We both came to the conclusion that using Windows Media Center is the easiest way to get everything up and running most simply.  I understand the nerdyness factor of using Linux and something like XBMC/BOXEE but if it's going to need tweaked every two seconds is it worth it?  Yes, it may be more satisfying...and if that's for you then great.  For those of you just interested in a HTPC I highly recommend it.  Cable is dead to me now (I've been without a paid video service since August and haven't missed it).  All you need is a decent connection to the interwebs and you're good to go.

So my question to all of the naysayers... why do you say nay?  Why is Windows Media Center the devil?

K thxbai.

-gr0n

Windows media center is slick, its probably going to be a lot easier for someone who isnt a geek, and most people probably already have it.

BUT- if you want complete control over the system, if you want it to be devoted to purely serving media (auto boot where it is supposed to be and also boot QUICKLY), you want to use open source scripts,  plugins, and skins and what not, have an easily built in bittorrent client, you want to run on cheap small equipment (my box is smaller than a wii and cost 199), then xbmc is the way to go.

I know it seems trivial to go on about the skins as well, but if you have a 56 inch 1080p tv, being able to control and make it look exacly how you want it to is very important to some people.

All that being said, if none of the stuff above applies to you and you want the easiest possible solution and you already have a windows box then WMC is for you.

XBMC really does not need to be tweaked every 2 seconds. Honestly if you set it up correctly it will work flawlessly an in my opinion with less hassle than windows media center. Thats the catch though, if your not crafty with linux this is not going to be an easy task.
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« Reply #53 on: December 30, 2009, 02:20:35 PM »

xmbc running aeon:





Windows Media Center:







With these media centers, presentation is EVERYTHING in my opinion. No comparison.
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« Reply #54 on: December 30, 2009, 03:15:35 PM »

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« Reply #55 on: December 30, 2009, 06:59:17 PM »

This a linux or windows install?

Yeah, I'm running it in Win7Pro.
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« Reply #56 on: December 31, 2009, 01:29:45 PM »

This a linux or windows install?

Yeah, I'm running it in Win7Pro.

Humm, i dont know, i tried to search for the windows one and cant seem to find it. If you were running under linux i could tell you right where to go.

Have you looked under the SVN script too see if you can install it that way?
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« Reply #57 on: December 31, 2009, 01:53:50 PM »

I haven't tried installing it.  Wasn't certain what it was actually for..
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« Reply #58 on: December 31, 2009, 04:05:54 PM »

There's no doubt that XBMC is prettier and I think if I had an HTPC I would use it.  For me, the WD box pretty much rocks.  While I can't skin it, it plays anything I throw at it.  What I have found is that the XBMC scraper is not as good as My Movie Collector.  Also, when My Movie Collector populates the artwork in the folder where the movie is located, the WD box pulls it and displays it.  For me, works great.  Later on though, I think varg's solution is a winner.  I'm just not at that point yet.
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« Reply #59 on: January 07, 2010, 06:19:54 PM »

Well,
If you are still interested in all these take a look at all the stuff being introduced at CES this week. I am dizzy reading about all the new stuff. Apparently, HTPC, in the smaller "streaming device" front end sence, is an exploding market. I shoulda waiting to buy a gizmo....
Very cool times to be interested in home theater media geekyness.
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