Swearing an Oath

[Unnormal]

The best answer to Life is currently, I don't know. 
I really appreciate your honesty. So why not Thrun prove or disprove any ideas about life? That is in essence why we are here, and every individuals feels the need to do this. That is why we have such a vast array of beliefs, though all for short but one.

So since I have done no differently then anyone else, what is your god going to do to me if I don't kiss his ass?
Because, you won't ask for forgiveness, all you have to do is ask. Immediately that goes against everything you have been taught. That no one can judge anyone, truth belongs to the individual, or in the words of satanist do what thou wilt will be the law.  You have been taught that God is against everything that is fun anything you would want to be a part of. The God that created: sex, booze, endorphins adrenalin, rivers, fishing, and anything else you could want to do ( how often do you hear that from the pulpit ). God made us to be able to experience happiness on a level most people don't understand, and he also gave us guidelines to use them. Sin comes in to play when we ignore those guidelines. And what is the result: broken families, the massacre of children, peoples lives wasted on alcohol and drugs, divorce, loneliness, abuse, murder, greed, selfishness. All these stem from people who refuse to acknowledge the morality of God.

Perhaps it will have more impact as a question than a statement. How different would the world be if everyone followed the ten commandments? Or even the two greatest commandments: love the lord your God with all your heart mind soul and strength. And love your neighbor as yourself? The answer: It would be a Utopia.





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[Nightstalker]

Did someone say Nighttroll?!

LOL

No, but they did say that Brutus got knocked the fuck out..





And that you are a Facist..

[thrun]

That is why we have such a vast array of beliefs, though all for short but one.

The funny thing is, if I ask a muslim they will answer it in the same way and with the same evidence you have.   Also I should note that you can't prove a negative, so I really have no way to prove there is no god. 

see my sig

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
- Stephen Roberts

Because, you won't ask for forgiveness, all you have to do is ask. Immediately that goes against everything you have been taught. That no one can judge anyone, truth belongs to the individual, or in the words of satanist do what thou wilt will be the law.  You have been taught that God is against everything that is fun anything you would want to be a part of. The God that created: sex, booze, endorphins adrenalin, rivers, fishing, and anything else you could want to do ( how often do you hear that from the pulpit ). God made us to be able to experience happiness on a level most people don't understand, and he also gave us guidelines to use them. Sin comes in to play when we ignore those guidelines. And what is the result: broken families, the massacre of children, peoples lives wasted on alcohol and drugs, divorce, loneliness, abuse, murder, greed, selfishness. All these stem from people who refuse to acknowledge the morality of God.

ROFLMAO


Churches are filled with divorced couples, pedophiles,  alcoholics, abusers  and ass holes.  Just like any other large group of people.   The difference is, if my friend one of my friends wants to smoke some meth and fuck men in the ass he doesn't wake up the next morning and cry about it.  And none of us go, "so I heard you like sleeping with dudes. You're gonna burn in a lake of fire forever."   The old testament  is rife with war, murder, and infanticide.  Sanctioned and even committed by god.  

To create a utopia you don't even need 10 commandments, you need one and one only.

Do on to others as you'd have them to on to you.  Or even shorter, don't be a dick.

[thrun]

And that you are a Facist..

I stumbled across that picture the other day when I was rounding up pictures of women I no longer associated with, it still makes me giggle. 

[Nightstalker]

hehe

[gr0n]

And that you are a Facist..

I stumbled across that picture the other day when I was rounding up pictures of women I no longer associated with, it still makes me giggle. 

Holy shit I must have missed that one the first time around...brilliant!  LOL

[Varg]

i know its old, i dont care i just think its awesome that he listens to slayer.

[Ellanorah]

just because people fail to practice what they preach, doesn't mean that what they preach doesn't have some truth to it.

and I refuse to stick to that whole "because god said so" routine. Is it something good and right because gods says so, and WHY does he say so? does he know why its right? Has he seen what will happen if we don't do it?

also, sometimes i forget that i am talking to people who don't have similar beliefs than i do, so i tend to say stuff that people dont understand, even though it makes sense to me.

[Aldoran]

Still following Thrun like an echo...

Unno, here's an argument you can reply to. Without the sarcasm, funny bits, or other humorous comparisons.

You believe in god, as in an invisible, omnipotent being that has never been recorded, quantified, analyzed, or interacted with in any quantifiable manner that has the ability to create, destroy, manipulate and alter the universe at will.

This belief is independent of religion, I don't know or care what brand of god you've got, kosher or lean, it's still an invisible being with magical powers.

My question is, how can you base your life on belief in a magical man?

[Nightstalker]

My question is, how can you base your life on belief in a magical man?

This..

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You have 2 chances:

1 to get right with Glen Beck
and 1 more to get right with God

[Unnormal]

You believe in god, as in an invisible, omnipotent being that has never been recorded, quantified, analyzed, or interacted with in any quantifiable manner

Well I think your missing a few things, here. the person of Jesus, the prophets of the old testiment, God's intervention on behalf of iserial ect. God is absolutley interacting with us in history, and personally.
If I were to ask you what the date was you would tell me. September, 15 2009 you realize that the date itself testifies to the life of Christ. (I can hear it already rabble rabble rabble gregorian rabble clander rabble catholic.=Julian calander Age of the martyrs check it.)
God has absolutley been recorded, he has been analyzed since the begining of time, and interacted with repeatedly through out history. As well as quantified as something that we can't comprehend without his direction.

BTW for you and Thrun the point of my question with death was not to talk about death, but to bring about the reality that there are things that exist that you can neither comprehend, nor can expereince right now. I don't know what happens after death, I've never done it./ My answer is I have no fucking clue, and neither does anyone else.Thats exactly right, but you still know it is a reality. No matter what answer you choose it still takes faith, based on what you beleive to be true.   That is the best way I could think of to describe how a relationship with God starts.

[Jim Tressel]

that picture is only rivaled by drunk leaning man

Did someone say drunk leaning man?!

[Jim Tressel]

No, but they did say that Brutus got knocked the fuck out..

And that you are a Facist..

Did someone say fiction?!

[thrun]

Hey unno:

Why doesn't god heal amputees?

Does your church have a lightning rod?

What is your god going to do to me if I don't kiss his ass?

and night, that video dishonors some of those who have died fighting for you. Show a little fucking respect. 

http://www.ffrf.org/foxholes/

[Varg]

You believe in god, as in an invisible, omnipotent being that has never been recorded, quantified, analyzed, or interacted with in any quantifiable manner

BTW for you and Thrun the point of my question with death was not to talk about death, but to bring about the reality that there are things that exist that you can neither comprehend, nor can expereince right now. I don't know what happens after death, I've never done it./ My answer is I have no fucking clue, and neither does anyone else.Thats exactly right, but you still know it is a reality. No matter what answer you choose it still takes faith, based on what you beleive to be true.   That is the best way I could think of to describe how a relationship with God starts.

A lack of knowledge of a certain thing does not constitute a need to belive in or have faith in something else just because you dont have an answer to said thing. Thats the problem with religion, its mans attempt to answer questions that we cannot answer. Ideas, thoughts, scientific break throughs have happened throughout history that have explained away mystic powers and much of what "faith" people had held as answers. If there is a god, and im not saying there isnt, he has designed everything in such an orderly and scientific way that its hard to belive we have to rely on blind faith for much of anything, even belief in his own being.
/2 cents