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thrun
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Or send a hippy to do something that invovles not getting killed.
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=5454035
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Re: Never trust whitey
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September 11, 2008, 02:35:41 PM »
A whole lot of stupid had to come together (police, parents, herself, police again) to allow that situation to turn out as it did.
I particularly like the part where she had made reasonably sized purchases of pot and then they send her out to buy coke, 1500 hits of ecstasy and a gun -- no drug dealer would be suspicious of that request.
Hopefully people will learn something from this.
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September 11, 2008, 02:42:30 PM »
Certainly sucks that she's dead, but from what I heard she made all of her own chioces, up to and including following those two guys away from the designated deal spot, which ultimately separated her from her "handler." Just sucks she chose to risk her own life instead of doing jail time. The gamble didn't pay off.
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Ya, I really don't get how they thought a 23 year old with a quarter pound of weed and half a dozen pills was fit to be invloved in that sort of thing. There's plenty of hosues on campus where you'd find more then that in the junk drawer.
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Quote from: Randoru on September 11, 2008, 02:42:30 PM
Certainly sucks that she's dead, but from what I heard she made all of her own chioces, up to and including following those two guys away from the designated deal spot, which ultimately separated her from her "handler." Just sucks she chose to risk her own life instead of doing jail time. The gamble didn't pay off.
The problem that i have with it is that the cops are supposed to be protecting us, not using as bait for bigger fish. Have you ever dealt with a 23 year old girl that goes to hippy festivals? Who could have possibly thought it was a good idea to involve her in a life and death situation that would require sound decision making.
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September 11, 2008, 02:55:12 PM »
To me, the police made a judgment error in even considering her as a CI. The people she was asked to sting probably knew she may be followed. They led her away and the police should have known that would happen. IMO they took advantage of her.
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September 11, 2008, 04:45:51 PM »
I agree that the police shouldn't have used her. She was certainly not the person for that particular job. But she did say yes to them when they asked her to. Now, whether or not she was threatened isn't known. From what we do know, she was offered jail time or C.I. and she took C.I.
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September 11, 2008, 05:27:19 PM »
Her mom is a dipshit. I hate listening to her speak. It makes me want to kick her in the face.
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Quote from: Jim Tressel on September 11, 2008, 05:27:19 PM
Her mom is a dipshit. I hate listening to her speak. It makes me want to kick her in the face.
she must be a republican right JT?
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September 11, 2008, 05:40:51 PM »
all signs point to yes.
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Re: Never trust whitey
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September 11, 2008, 06:29:21 PM »
everyone, we should be seeing the bigger brighter picture here. The policemen, (wonderful chaps, all deserve tea and medals) are doing us a huge favour. I'm talking xbox huge.
are you ready for the inside scoop?
They are getting rid of the dirty hippies, but in a smarter way than LSD and vietnam. The policemen, i love that word btw say it in a british accent, are slowly and systematically eliminating these useless unwashed scum with their own miserable cockups: ie faffing about on drugs and listening to shitty music.
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Quote from: Grimsweeper on September 11, 2008, 06:29:21 PM
everyone, we should be seeing the bigger brighter picture here. The policemen, (wonderful chaps, all deserve tea and medals) are doing us a huge favour. I'm talking xbox huge.
are you ready for the inside scoop?
They are getting rid of the dirty hippies, but in a smarter way than LSD and vietnam. The policemen, i love that word btw say it in a british accent, are slowly and systematically eliminating these useless unwashed scum with their own miserable cockups: ie faffing about on drugs and listening to shitty music.
Discuss
First they came for the people on drugs who listened to shitty music, and I said nothing for I listen to good music while on drugs. Then they came for me, and there were no people left to say a damn thing about it. Or something to that effect.
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Re: Never trust whitey
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Quote from: thrun on September 11, 2008, 06:40:49 PM
First they came for the people on drugs who listened to shitty music, and I said nothing for I listen to good music while on drugs. Then they came for me, and there were no people left to say a damn thing about it. Or something to that effect.
QFE. To think that something as harmless (yes I say harmless, as harmless as cigarettes and alcohol, both legal) as pot turned into a girl getting murdered...
I've seen this report before, and the police officer's attitude about it all really grinds my gears. "Well, in hindsight, yes, we should have let them know." we're not talking about giving someone a ticket when they were only doing 2 miles over. He obviously doesn't give a shit about her cause she's "just another criminal". Most cops don't, which is sad.
And to toss a 23 year old pothead into a ring with 2 cocaine dealers and guns with no training, tapping her (at that level, dealers usually do a minor frisk), and not even follow her when she moved away from the park is scary. Do you think they would have done that with one of their own? Of course not.
So many reasons keep stacking up for why marijuana laws should change, with the biggest reason that the majority public don't agree with such harsh penalties, yet the police don't listen, laws aren't changed, people get screwed.
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Quote from: Krogoth on September 11, 2008, 08:45:16 PM
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And to toss a 23 year old pothead into a ring with 2 cocaine dealers and guns with no training, tapping her (at that level, dealers usually do a minor frisk), and not even follow her when she moved away from the park is scary. Do you think they would have done that with one of their own? Of course not.
That's where I am coming from on this to, we're talking about recreational drug user getting thrown in with the big dogs. It just seems like such a horrid idea. And yes, I consider a 1/4lb of marijuana recreational. That's a freeze bag full tops. When I was in high school my jack ass friends and I probably smoked that in about a week.
They didn't communicate what they were doing to the proper channels in their department, ran it half assed and got some dumb hippy broad killed because of it. For what? An un winnable war against or own populace?
She was obviously a little on the slow side or she would have run it by a lawyer first, who would have promptly shit their pants and told her not to do it. But that doesn't mean she deserved to die or absolves the local PD of their responsibility in this situation.
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September 11, 2008, 10:41:22 PM »
fucking legalize it already
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