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Title: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Nightstalker on November 07, 2008, 03:25:34 AM
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Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Paul on November 07, 2008, 03:30:35 AM
video 2 could be the next rick roll...omg


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: thrun on November 07, 2008, 04:01:08 AM
Trent Reznor never really got cool though. 


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Nightstalker on November 07, 2008, 04:25:17 AM
Trent Reznor never really got cool though. 

how old are you?

And furthermore, what clueless newbie planet are you from?


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: thrun on November 07, 2008, 01:34:13 PM
I'm 28, I'll give you Pretty Hate Machine but other then that he's just a whiney douche who sounds like Phil Collins with a cold reading poetry from a middle girls notebook.

As far as the clueless n00bz planet, it's not that hard to find out about fake angsty cookie cutter music like NIN. 

(http://msp296.photobucket.com/albums/mm180/cookyman1970/ani_gay-yoda.gif)


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: thrun on November 07, 2008, 02:38:54 PM
ha, NIN is taking boris out.  I guess I will hand it to them for bringnig real music to the people/

http://www.myspace.com/borisdronevil


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Nightstalker on November 07, 2008, 03:20:39 PM
As far as the clueless n00bz planet, it's not that hard to find out about fake angsty cookie cutter music like NIN. 

LMAO cookie cutter. This is just another one of your troll attempts, so I won't comment too much into it.


1. Trent's influence on his apprentice, Marilyn Manson. Need I remind you that MM was the last Rock Superstar before the balance of power shifted to boy bands Nsync and Backstreet Boys, then subsequently into the hands of Hip Hip, and R & B where it still remains. Cant say that I was a fan of MM, but what I can recognize is that his squire held the last mainstream Rock throne. Not to mention he's had an impact on the rise of Techno and Trance.

2. NiN's popularity on the gaming industy. Several games have featured Trent's work be it single influenced pieces, or entire soundtracks such as with Quake. Much of Trent's current popularity can be attributed to computer owning geek technophiles, which could account to 1 in 8, up to 1 in 5 of us online.

3. NiN's impact on the music process itself. He's been in several law actions against the music industry, and their corporate greed. It may very well be that the future of music, and how it is distributed will be the result of how he has acted, and will act in the future. He's released much of his recent material for free, and has in a couple instances verbally encouraged his fans to steal his music from stores to spite the current greedy music industry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Inch_Nails


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: thrun on November 07, 2008, 03:35:43 PM
1. It's all still pop music, whether you lable it rock or r&b, not that there is anything wrong with that.  People like pop or it wouldn't become pop music.  He's found a formula that works for him to sell music to the masses, and more power to him.  ACDC still holds the mainstream rock throne.  Look at the sales figures form their new album, which happened to sound like the 16 before it.   

2. Mr RezSNORE wasn't the first to be in a video game soundtrack, won't be the last. 

3. Trent is just catching up to what Dischord Records on the east coast and SST on the west have been doing since the late 70's early 80's.   Waita come in 30 years behind the times. 



Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Redbear8 on November 07, 2008, 03:49:15 PM
the 'pop' in "pop music"  stands for popular. So when you think about it even Death Viking I Hate My Mother and Babies music is pop, since it's popular in some crowds.



/troll


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: thrun on November 07, 2008, 03:51:02 PM
the 'pop' in "pop music"  stands for popular. So when you think about it even Death Viking I Hate My Mother and Babies music is pop, since it's popular in some crowds.



/troll

I think it has to chart well in order to be truely pop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_music


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Jim Tressel on November 07, 2008, 03:51:29 PM
I see what you did there.  Anakin.  lawls!


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: thrun on November 07, 2008, 04:04:38 PM
I mean seriously, what 13 year old girl does he rip this shit off of?

"The Collector"

I pick things up
I am a collector
And things, well things, they tend to accumulate
I have this net
It drags behind me
It picks up feelings
For me to feed upon

There are times, plenty of times
I wish I could let it go
But they start to breathe, and they start to grow inside me
There are times, plenty of times
I wish I could let it go
But they start to make me think things I don't wanna know

[Chorus:]
I'm trying to fit it all inside
I'm trying to open my mouth wide
I'm trying not to choke and
Swallow it all, swallow it all, swallow it all, swallow it all

I am the plague I am the swarm
All your hurt sticks on me
And I keep it warm
They will make me stay, they won't let me leave
There are so god damned many of them it gets hard to breath

[Chorus:]
I'm trying to fit it all inside
I'm trying to open my mouth wide
I'm trying not to choke inside
I am a good boy and I will
Swallow it all, swallow it all, swallow it all, swallow it all

Every last one [x20]


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Armonde on November 08, 2008, 01:29:43 PM
That chorus makes me LOL


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: ch0wdah on November 08, 2008, 05:41:23 PM
Techno and trance were doing fine before NiN arrived.

I generally enjoy NiN, even if it makes me have to sleep on Thrun's couch.

You know what's reall awesome is anyone from Columbus covering Katy Perry.


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Nightstalker on November 08, 2008, 05:53:42 PM
Techno and trance were doing fine before NiN arrived.

Techno and Trance before '88 ?

Get a clue


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Jim Tressel on November 08, 2008, 06:59:45 PM
Downward Spiral was the first CD I ever bought.  Great CD.  I still listen to it.  Pretty Hate Machine is a good listen as well.  I also dig their recent push to give away their music, though they aren't the only ones or the first people to do it. 

That being said, Reznor has always sort of been a weiner.  I could never put my finger on it until I watched these videos.  There was always a feeling that he might have formerly been a member of a shitty 80's electronica band, or two.  Thanks for helping resolve this cognitive dissonance for me. 


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Nightstalker on November 08, 2008, 07:40:19 PM
Its called starting somewhere.

Of course what would you know about being in a band struggling to get a label signed.


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: thrun on November 08, 2008, 09:38:31 PM
Its called starting somewhere.

Of course what would you know about being in a band struggling to get a label signed.

I play in 2 bands that don't tour, as we are not intersetd in living the dream or those of us that were fell short and have families to feed now so they aren't going to try again.  We put out our own music with either money from our own pockets or what we make off shows.  We support/open for the touring acts that come through, help flier spread the word, make sure they have a place to shit/shower/sleep and always have a good time when they come to Columbus.

I have had the pleasure of playing with musicians from all over the world, and thoroughly enjoy making music.  There are networks of musicians world wide that are either making a living on their own or just making enough to tour around and see the sites for awhile while they can. 

I remember before the interwebz whenever some one would get their hands on a paper (yes paper) catalog from a distributor and how we used to crowd around it like it was a bibile and pass it around to everyone we knew. Going to all day shows where bands would set up tables and have not only their records but the records of local acts that had supported them across the country.  Kids with silk screens making shirts and patches for the bands, cause you sure couldn't go to the mall and get 'em.  Trading bootleg VHS of shows.  All that shit. 

Mr. Reznor "bucking the record industry" is nothing new, and frankly it's quite boring since he already had the fame, power and money to do it on his own.   Obviously the man is good at what he does, but what he does is far from innovative or pushing any boundaries.   Kraftwerk was innovative, Throbbing Gristle was innovative.  The kids making Gabber and building their own sampers/software or the circuit bending crowd are innovating industrial music right now. 


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Nightstalker on November 08, 2008, 09:48:23 PM
Is this fucking Fox or MSNBC fucking news?

I don't ever recall saying that him bucking the music industry was a first, so don't try and put some partisan like spin on what I said.

I'd suggest for the both of you to scroll back and reassess what I typed. Apparently Obama needs to help a few other folks with word interpretation.

Thanks, drive through.


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Jim Tressel on November 09, 2008, 12:35:04 AM
I thought I was siding with you Night.  I guess I was wrong?


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Nightstalker on November 09, 2008, 12:39:08 AM
I thought I was siding with you Night.  I guess I was wrong?

I Never said to the contrary


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Jim Tressel on November 09, 2008, 01:16:52 AM
kull.


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: thrun on November 09, 2008, 06:53:36 AM
Techno and trance were doing fine before NiN arrived.

Techno and Trance before '88 ?

Get a clue

Both trance and techno were around long before NIN, just like everything else they do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trance_music

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_dance_music


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Nightstalker on November 09, 2008, 07:11:15 AM
Techno and trance were doing fine before NiN arrived.

Techno and Trance before '88 ?

Get a clue

Both trance and techno were around long before NIN, just like everything else they do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trance_music

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_dance_music

Those links arent to legit wiki.

Nice try.


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: thrun on November 09, 2008, 03:06:17 PM

Those links arent to legit wiki.

Nice try.

Ya, because the KLF and Klaus Schulze don't  actually exist. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_KLF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Schulze

and House (the earliest term for EDM/techno I know of)  didn't start at the end of disco or anything
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/273088/house

Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about.




Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Nightstalker on November 09, 2008, 03:23:31 PM
Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about.

No.

Bill O'reilly and the Fox channel says I don't have to listen to your Liberal lies, so i'm not gunna.



Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: thrun on November 09, 2008, 03:42:40 PM
Ah ha, so it all makes since.  Liberal lies= "fox news speak" for the truth. 


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: ch0wdah on November 09, 2008, 09:33:20 PM
Trent Reznor gave the world "Closer."

Discuss.



Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: thrun on November 10, 2008, 02:27:08 AM
Trent Reznor gave the world "Closer."

Discuss.



That's pretty much all the reason I need to ignore him.   



Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Dyeboy on November 11, 2008, 08:01:41 PM
the 'pop' in "pop music"  stands for popular. So when you think about it even Death Viking I Hate My Mother and Babies music is pop, since it's popular in some crowds.



/troll

Maybe back in the day it meant popular, but now it has morphed into a new style of music, like most worlds / meanings through out history.


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: Jim Tressel on November 11, 2008, 09:22:01 PM
Like Uncle Tom?


Title: Re: Anakin Skywalker before he was Darth Vader
Post by: thrun on December 03, 2008, 04:13:19 PM
Just because I am an asshole.  Here's a french group doing what daft punk does now, only in 1976.  Trent Reznor would have been 11 or 12 at the time. 

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